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	<title>Comments on: Headings and SEO copy</title>
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	<description>David Rosam on SEO copywriting, Ethical SEO and Marketing</description>
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		<title>By: David Rosam</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1206</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rosam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pete Hurst

I have no arguments about using h1 tags like that from the accessibility point of view, however, I don't think it makes much sense from an SEO point of view.

The reason why, is that most sites have little problem ranking well for their own name or their company name, whether it's put into h1 tags or not. So why not use the h1 tags to give a little more leverage on key phrases that are more difficult to rank highly for?

It's a choice, most of the time - best accessibility or best SEO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pete Hurst</p>
<p>I have no arguments about using h1 tags like that from the accessibility point of view, however, I don&#8217;t think it makes much sense from an SEO point of view.</p>
<p>The reason why, is that most sites have little problem ranking well for their own name or their company name, whether it&#8217;s put into h1 tags or not. So why not use the h1 tags to give a little more leverage on key phrases that are more difficult to rank highly for?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a choice, most of the time - best accessibility or best SEO?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Hurst</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an accessibility point of view, I've always been inclined to put the website's name in the h1, so the reader always knows where they are. (Although this information is also in the title tag itself, so will they just hear it twice?)

I find that by considering the benefits to text-to-speech readers (i.e. looking at the page with no styling at all) we are often also doing the thing that is best for SEO. By making the page make sense to a visually impaired user, it will inevitably also make more sense to a search engine spider.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an accessibility point of view, I&#8217;ve always been inclined to put the website&#8217;s name in the h1, so the reader always knows where they are. (Although this information is also in the title tag itself, so will they just hear it twice?)</p>
<p>I find that by considering the benefits to text-to-speech readers (i.e. looking at the page with no styling at all) we are often also doing the thing that is best for SEO. By making the page make sense to a visually impaired user, it will inevitably also make more sense to a search engine spider.</p>
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		<title>By: DazzleCat Website Design</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>DazzleCat Website Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with david R, my experience also leads me to belueve this also, they are unquestionably a piositive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with david R, my experience also leads me to belueve this also, they are unquestionably a piositive</p>
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		<title>By: David Rosam</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1078</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rosam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johan

Thanks for commenting. But I have to disagree with you.

My experience is that headings, properly used, unquestionably have a positive effect - carry SEO weight, if you will. Their effect is already here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johan</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting. But I have to disagree with you.</p>
<p>My experience is that headings, properly used, unquestionably have a positive effect - carry SEO weight, if you will. Their effect is already here.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should use structured headings unfortunately the  carry's very little SEO weight if any extra at all! Hard to believe but true. However I expect well structured headings to help rank sites better in the future as we learn to use them better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should use structured headings unfortunately the  carry&#8217;s very little SEO weight if any extra at all! Hard to believe but true. However I expect well structured headings to help rank sites better in the future as we learn to use them better.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rosam</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rosam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, can you imagine the volume of copy you'd have on a page to require the granularity offered by all those lower-level tags? :-O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, can you imagine the volume of copy you&#8217;d have on a page to require the granularity offered by all those lower-level tags? :-O</p>
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		<title>By: Clive Walker</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point about blogs and h1 usage. I don't have another  answer but I wonder whether our current usage of headings is appropriate considering that h4 to h6 hardly ever get used?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about blogs and h1 usage. I don&#8217;t have another  answer but I wonder whether our current usage of headings is appropriate considering that h4 to h6 hardly ever get used?</p>
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		<title>By: David Rosam</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rosam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clive

I wondered if I'd get pulled up on that one! :-)

I think I have an answer. Blogs are blogs and I feel you're kind of caught by having multiple articles on one page. So you have to use h2 for each of the headlines. You can't use, say, ten h1s.

However, when it comes to Web sites (ie those that are not blogs), my view is that the h1 tag should be used as a key part of the optimisation. So you shouldn't use it for the company name.

Do you have any thoughts on how you might be able to avoid the structural gotcha with blogs, so that you can use h1s more productively?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clive</p>
<p>I wondered if I&#8217;d get pulled up on that one! <img src='http://dangerous-thinking.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think I have an answer. Blogs are blogs and I feel you&#8217;re kind of caught by having multiple articles on one page. So you have to use h2 for each of the headlines. You can&#8217;t use, say, ten h1s.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to Web sites (ie those that are not blogs), my view is that the h1 tag should be used as a key part of the optimisation. So you shouldn&#8217;t use it for the company name.</p>
<p>Do you have any thoughts on how you might be able to avoid the structural gotcha with blogs, so that you can use h1s more productively?</p>
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		<title>By: Clive Walker</title>
		<link>http://dangerous-thinking.com/2007/11/22/headings-and-seo-copy/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 16:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's your view on the use of the h1 tag to surround the company name or logo? For example, WordPress blogs like this one! Subsequent page content headings then start with h2. I see this on a lot of websites but it seems to me to be a bit of a 'waste' of h1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your view on the use of the h1 tag to surround the company name or logo? For example, WordPress blogs like this one! Subsequent page content headings then start with h2. I see this on a lot of websites but it seems to me to be a bit of a &#8216;waste&#8217; of h1.</p>
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